20 mph limit to be reversed

[AntStark]

A government that listens to its people …that will never catch on in England

Some roads in Wales to revert back to 30mph after half a million call for 20mph speed limit to end — Sky News

Some roads in Wales are set to go back to 30mph after nearly half a million people called for an end to the national 20mph speed limit.

apple.news

 

[B21]

The Scottish councils had to do the same …so we are now to graduated step down, step up limits as you progress into bigger villages and towns..still 20 mph right in the middle…

Lets the turbos cool down ..

 

[Ianmc]

Perhaps a politician has nicked the money.

 

[andyglym]

I've been through a few over the last couple of years, it's akin to the film Intersteller, I went in at 30 years of age and came out at 157 FFS! Unless they are outside schools and the like they're an absolute nonsense

 

[bombur]

A government that listens to its people …that will never catch on in England

Some roads in Wales to revert back to 30mph after half a million call for 20mph speed limit to end — Sky News

Some roads in Wales are set to go back to 30mph after nearly half a million people called for an end to the national 20mph speed limit.

apple.news

Hmm more like an election attempt to get votes back, will take years to change back.

But is very good to hear and eventfully common sense

 

[Duncodin]

Some councils (mine for example) did it thoughtfully and only set the 20MPH limits in purely residential roads. Other roads, the ones you do most miles on getting through town, stayed at 30.

Other councils (jobsworths lacking the confidence to decide) simply did a blanket 20 everywhere in town.

On the other hand, our area must have spent a fortune on 20/30 signs for each and every one of those residential roads.

 

[bombur]

Some councils (mine for example) did it thoughtfully and only set the 20MPH limits in purely residential roads. Other roads, the ones you do most miles on getting through town, stayed at 30.

Other councils (jobsworths lacking the confidence to decide) simply did a blanket 20 everywhere in town.

On the other hand, our area must have spent a fortune on 20/30 signs for each and every one of those residential roads.

Welsh Gov spent 33 million on it.. when it is probably better spent elsewhere. Just let the councils decide on it..by schools etc. Total waste of tax payers money

 

[Ianmc]

Welsh Gov spent 33 million on it..

Unbelievable. Almost as daft as the Westminster clowns and nanny state.

 

[the Nefyn cat]

Should save me a few vital seconds on the way to Asda in Pwllheli.

Other supermarkets are available. Just not round here.

 

[Duncodin]

People talking about the costs. It wouldn't have cost much to make a blanket 20 limit. No signs means 20. Probably why many councils did a blanket 20. They could do it cheap and trouser the money from govt.

Road I live on is 30 going from edge of town all the way through the middle of town and out the other side. All the smaller residential roads going off sideways, dozens of them, and every one of them has new 20/30 signs. That cost a lot of money.

I didn't support the new limits. But here it really is only the residential streets that are 20 and I don't mind the way they did it.

If just one child playing in the street survives a 20MPH impact, which would have been fatal at 30, then it will have been worth it.

It just needs to be done right.

All those councils who did a blanket 20 will now need to ask for more money now to pay for all them signs that will be necessary to lift the limit on 'some' roads.

 

[bombur]

It was Welsh Government who made the default Speed limit being 20 mph, not the councils.
Where I live there were already 20mph zones around schools. I assume councils put them in place and not Welsh Government. Why change. That is where the Welsh government went wrong. Can't blame the councils when you get given a ridiculous policy to implement

 

[Duncodin]

I live on the very northern edge of cwmbran. (A town with 3 times the population of your town) so, I assume, many more roads than your town.

i can leave my house and drive at 30MPH right into the very center of town then out the other side. All the way at 30. I can basically get almost everwhere north, east, south or west, at 30. Only when I turn into a purely residential street do I hit a 20 sign.

Are you saying my town broke some rules?

 

[bombur]

I'm not sure mate but 500,000 people can't be all wrong in regards to how badly the Welsh Government have managed the default speed limit law.
Maybe you are just lucky in the roads you use around your town.

 

[Duncodin]

As I said. The default in built up areas is 20.

But borough councils have the ability to set their own 'non-default' limits.

It seems my town have decided to set 30 as a limit on some busier roads in town.

Maybe if all towns did the same then a lot of those 500,000 wouldn't have minded as much.

 

[Duncodin]

There's a whole document that explains where exceptions to the 20 limit could be made. ie where roads in town could remain at 30 where deemed safe to do so.

It's not light reading. But I guess some jobsworths couldn't be bothered to read it.


https://www.gov.wales/setting-exceptions-20mph-default-speed-limit-restricted-roads-html

 

[bombur]

Don't get me started on jobsworth Councils

 

[mikeyH]

Do you know if they will put the dual carriageways back to the national speed limit, my wife says it's down to 50mph now?

 

[the Nefyn cat]

Do you know if they will put the dual carriageways back to the national speed limit, my wife says it's down to 50mph now?

First I've heard of there being a 50 limit on dual carriageways, but there again it's a long way from Nefyn to the nearest one. A55, how lovely. Round here the roads are just about wide enough for a few to amble about on.

 

[bombur]

Here in Wales, my.20 mile motorway work journey is taken up with about 50% of the speed limit being 50 mph, to keep emissions down.
I drive past Port Talbot steelworks...biggest polluter in Wales (currently)