Nose lifts at 140mph!!!!

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badman gee said:
swamper said:
the splitters do make a difference.....very much so with the small mouth bumper....at 120 it was very light but splitters on and it makes a difference...
did you have an m pushing you to 120

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no mate but i dont have to carry a big head around with me ;)
nice reply sir, only joking :D
 

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you also dont have to tow one of these round with you swamper... #-o

 

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Mine is very economical, I only used 3 tankfulls in the whole of last year ;-)
 

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Jonttt said:
Mine is very economical, I only used 3 tankfulls in the whole of last year ;-)
shouldn't that be "tankerfulls" :D

I wish the m had a bigger fuel tank
 
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Jonttt said:
Mine is very economical, I only used 3 tankfulls in the whole of last year ;-)
shouldn't that be "tankerfulls" :D

I wish the m had a bigger fuel tank
he only did a couple of hundred miles i believe.

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Haha, I did manage about 360 miles out of a tank, once
 

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Haha, I did manage about 360 miles out of a tank, once
Wow you must have some patience and a long hill to drive down lol

I can get 240 and could probably squeeze 260 if I feel asleep but I get too much fun out of it to bother. Then again the car is a lot better MPG than plenty I've had in the past. Scoobies are one of the worst out of a 2 litre engine I would struggle to get 20MPG and could easily get them down to low teens :coolsteer)
 

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Jonttt said:
board said:
Haha, I did manage about 360 miles out of a tank, once
Wow you must have some patience and a long hill to drive down lol

I can get 240 and could probably squeeze 260 if I feel asleep but I get too much fun out of it to bother. Then again the car is a lot better MPG than plenty I've had in the past. Scoobies are one of the worst out of a 2 litre engine I would struggle to get 20MPG and could easily get them down to low teens :coolsteer)
Guess at those speeds, there is no chance of the nose lifting! :-? I wonder how many mpgs at 140 mph???? :D #:-s

Scoobies!! What the heck are scoobies :-\
 

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Jonttt said:
board said:
Haha, I did manage about 360 miles out of a tank, once
Wow you must have some patience and a long hill to drive down lol

I can get 240 and could probably squeeze 260 if I feel asleep but I get too much fun out of it to bother. Then again the car is a lot better MPG than plenty I've had in the past. Scoobies are one of the worst out of a 2 litre engine I would struggle to get 20MPG and could easily get them down to low teens :coolsteer)
It was more of a challenge to see how far I could get as the range to see a friend is just over a tank and a bit at normal speeds. Coming back up the top end of the M11, A14 and A1 in the early hours most petrol stations are shut or want a mortgage for 5 litres so I sat at about 55/60 all the way (going down in the daytime you don't have much option with all the trucks) - made my leg ache really bad so wouldn't be inclined to do it often ;)

I think i had to fill up twice on an evening track day at Donnington :D

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Guess at those speeds, there is no chance of the nose lifting! :-? I wonder how many mpgs at 140 mph???? :D #:-s

Scoobies!! What the heck are scoobies :-\
Not many MPGs at 140 :) that's just hitting the rev limiter in 4th gear in the M :D (the rev limit in second is about the national speed limit on a de-restricted dual carriageway)

Scoobies: Some kind of snack i think :D
 

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My mate had a scooby and his daughter used to call it the horsey car because of the dump valve sounding like a horse :)
 

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Yeah, usually the snort that comes after that bit as it wasn't always the pssschh you normally hear from dump valves :D :car)
 

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Thinking about the Z3's cornering ability, I do not believe it is as simple as blaming the antiquated suspension design. Many drivers today learn to drive in front wheel drive cars, which will always react differently around corners than rear wheel drive cars. /:)

Cars that are rear wheel drive need to be set up perfectly to take a corner at speed. the speed at which they can take the corner depends on three things:- The line taken from the approach to the corner, selecting the correct gear for the corner and balancing the car on the throttle through the corner.

Front wheel drive cars are far more forgiving in this respect, even a car with an antiquated suspension set up, if rear wheel drive, can be made to take a corner fast. :-ss

The question of whether a Porshe Boxter is faster round corners than any Z3, will depend on a large part on the ability of the driver. Whatever rear wheel drive you are in, if driven incorrectly through the bends, will wallow and roll if the proper technique isn't applied. This is why powerful cars like Porshes and Jaguars can some times appear to be out performed by Mini Coopers. B-)

The lesson was brought home to me many years ago, whilst watching minis race a Ford Thunderbird at Snetterton Circuit. The T'bird could only use it's power on the straight and would always open the gap on the pursuing Mini, however by the time the T'bird was exiting the S bends at the bottom of the straight, the mini had caught up again. The eventually winner of the race however, was a well driven Ford Anglia, which although under powered, was driven superbly and managed to maintain a lead,
 

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I could not agree more that driver ability is the biggest factor but modern super cars can compensate for a lot but at the end of the day a well driven line is king.

That's why I get more fun out of driving my zed more than a super car on public roads, it is fun and within my limits to drive hard but a super car is just scary and I am not skill full enough to push it to the limit.

I've seen off many a super car in a scooby, the 4 wheel drive and cornering ability is unbelievable and I know it would have seen off my zed on the twisted but drifting a rear wheel drive is so much more fun than trying to drift a 4 wheel drive ;-)
 

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Great to read all this about the Zed's in the twisties. That is why I have the one for the track! apart from a Capri GT xlr in the late 1970's and the Toyota Celica Supra, all I have ever driven are front wheel drive and the Saab 9000 was a case of if you lost it it was because you bottled it and lifted. I know rear wheel drive's are different and I want to know and I really mean know how to do it properly in a rear wheel drive. to me the only way to learn (even if I already do it right I would never know) is on the track! so that's what i am doing taking Black to the Track. :!! :-bd

What are any of you guys doing track wise this year I have signed up for two with the BMWCC 8th May and 16th July (thats going to be a great week monday on Track Friday & Saturday at Horwood and Silverstone!) :-bd
 

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140 MPH!!!!! My nose lifts at 2 MPH (when I bounce the sodding thing of a high kerb)
 
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