Rebody Z3 Based Ferrari 250 California Build

Dakar Z3

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Waiting in anticipation for the progress thread on the Spyder
 

MisterP007

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Waiting in anticipation for the progress thread on the Spyder
Do you mean this one for my existing car?

 

Dakar Z3

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oooops, did I really mean the California............. :whistle:
 

MisterP007

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Got a bit of a move on this evening:
  • Bonnet hinges fixed on
  • Bumper mounting bar fixed and adjustable turrets fitted
  • Both doors adjusted and temporarily screwed in place
  • Front clam adjusted and marked for trimming
  • All body gaps marked up for finer adjustment
Beginning to look like a 250 Cal!!!!

A lot of work to do on adjusting panel gaps.


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t-tony

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Starting to look the part :thumbsup:

Tony.
 

MisterP007

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Great skills and ingenuity required and on show here. I’m enjoying seeing the progress 😁
Very kind of you to say so.

There is a fair bit of coffee drinking and head scratching involved!

Sandy
 
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MisterP007

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Worked on the car in fits and starts over the weekend as we had a bit of a mad social calendar! including my son's engagement party on Sunday evening.

  • Made up the bonnet catch plate, lots of noisy cutting and filing. This is fitted temporarily but will need to come back out to be painted. Pic 1
  • Front clam to door gap adjusted after much fiddling about with the height and rake of the front clam bolts. Before and after pics below. Pics 2-5
  • Fitted the bonnet. Nice simple looking job, which ended up taking 4-hours, accidentally chipping a lump of gel coat off the bonnet with a hammer and a lot of F'ing and blinding. Ended up taking it off again at 7.30 last night whilst telling it what I thought of it in no uncertain terms! grrrrr.............
  • Still got a bit of light fiddling to do to get the swage lines to match but I can sort that with the door panel.
Pic 1 - Bonnet Latch Plate

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Pic 2 - N/S Door to Front Clam Gap Before (excuse the blur)

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Pic 3 - O/S Door to Front Clam Gap Before

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Pic 4 - N/S Door to Front Clam Gap After

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Pic 5 O/S Door to Front Clam Gap After

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Pic 6 - Bonnet in Place (Sort of)

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MisterP007

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Also went to collect a GRP dashboard (no pics) and look at some bling:


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Dakar Z3

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You don't hang around,

great progress made so far, I love chrome wires, reminds me of my TR4 from day's gone by.
 

MisterP007

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You don't hang around,

great progress made so far, I love chrome wires, reminds me of my TR4 from day's gone by.
I have not bought the bling yet, got a bit to do before that.
 

jaguartvr

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pI knew you would enjoy fitting the bonnet, you shouldn't have resorted to the hammer:whistle:

Do draw a line down the swage line, if you just do short lines it looks ok but a few weeks down the line you realise it's not level. The front clam can look ok but with the full line it can be +/- 20 degrees out. Ask me how I know
 

MisterP007

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Hi Steve

As you mentioned Brian should receive a Comedy Award for the way he shows how "simple" the bonnet is to fit!

  • Hinge plates adjust vertically & front to back.
  • Hinges need to be slotted to allow further front-back movement and a little side to side.
  • The front clam can move up down and front back.
  • Every movement of one item causes a change in one of the others.
Absolute PITA!!!

I will be running a line of masking tape down the whole length of the swage line (need this for accurate sanding later anyway) to get the it as straight as possible. I can then see the line from a distance and sight down it.

Watch this space for more swearing at inanimate objects (bonnet mostly).
 

MisterP007

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t-tony

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That bad?

Tony.
 

MisterP007

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MisterP007

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Just seen this one pop up for sale again:


Guy describes himself as "I have OCD and so have done the car my way". All I can say is the car is lovely but there are immediate details that jump out as being not right.

Nice and cheap though!!!!!
 

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Just seen this one pop up for sale again:


Guy describes himself as "I have OCD and so have done the car my way". All I can say is the car is lovely but there are immediate details that jump out as being not right.

Nice and cheap though!!!!!
No doubt it's a very nice car, but not ninety grand nice.

At the end of the day, it's a kit car based on a £4k donor.
 

MisterP007

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No doubt it's a very nice car, but not ninety grand nice.

At the end of the day, it's a kit car based on a £4k donor.
I know, nuts is it not?

They do have a value far in excess of the £4k base car, partly due to the build cost, partly rarity (probably rarer than the original), but more importantly desirability. What someone is willing to pay for a car "is" what it is worth. A really good 250 Cali replica might fetch £50k these days, so I agree, £90k is somewhat mad!

I agree that the "average" kit car build is a pile of xxxx, although it is someone's pride and joy - good on them. These 250's tend to be very well built due to the £16-20000 spend that is needed to get them immaculate, although I have seen some rubbish also. Mine is having all remaining Z3 parts restored/upgraded and will be like a 5-year old car when done. The body/interior will be new.

The way I look at it is to value my build based on what I would pay for a restored MGA/Big Healey (£32-35k). As this is a similar result in my view.

Do you still have your 250SWB? @Pingu
 

Pingu

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Do you still have your 250SWB?
I never had one, and never will have one ;) .

Mine will be even more rare. One of one - aren't they all? I know there will be at least two with the body shape (there may be more, but not many), but definitely only one with the engine / body combination (unless someone else is mad enough to do what I've done).

I think that you can probably add £10k - £20k to the build price estimate for mine. It has cost close to your price estimate BEFORE it gets its new dress.
 
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